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LK82

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I know this might be a sensitive subject for some, so those of you who post here please take that into consideration when replying.

Thank you.

- Drug and alcohol addiction, a disease or choice?



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Both.


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I personally think it's more of a choice then anything else.

Those people that use disease are only trying to find an exuse.

~just my 2 cents


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lalabean wrote:
Both.


You have a point. A person would first have to choose to try a drug before he/she can become addicted to it.

So you choose to try the drug for some reason (peer pressure, bad environment, curiosity) and become addicted (chemical addiction).

Now you’re in a position where you’ve made a wrong judgment to try a drug, you’ve realized that this drug has caused you to become addicted to it chemically; your body requires it to function properly.

So this is where your will power and self determination kicks in right?
If you’re able to quit the drug you’re using, then one can’t say that you had no will power and that’s why you were addicted; because if you didn’t have will power you would still be an addict.

What about those who lack the strong will power and self-determination which is a must to quit an addiction.
Many of them remain drug addicts for a majority of their lives, all because of one mistake, one wrong friend, or group of friends.


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Anonymous wrote:
I personally think it's more of a choice then anything else.

Those people that use disease are only trying to find an exuse.

~just my 2 cents


So are you saying that a chemical addiction is also an excuse?


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Everyone has a choice in certain situations, and that includes drugs. You have the choice to stay away from it, but some people are weak and they do not have self control. Drugs do not necessarily mean illegal drugs, but legit ones such as Anti-depressants, sleep meds, etc. If a doctor prescribes something to you, you should carefully consider it. Not all medicine is "safe".


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From my observations, drug and/or alcohol abuse is something most people do not have control over. Yes, of course it starts off by choice. I myself was curious about weed, that's why I did it. But, I had control over it. Therefore, it never turned into an addiction.

For some people, it's easier to get addicted to these things than others. I'm not the type to get addicted to anything easily. Although, I have to admit, I fiend for Armenian coffee like a nigga fiends for crack. :evil4:

Anyways, for most druggies, it certainly is an addiction. This is the sole purpose of drugs (not talking about pharmaceuticals). Starts off by choice, then turns into an addiction.


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OK. Its a choice to start doing it. If you continue to choose to use drugs or alcohol, it will eventually progress into the disease. Like most diseases, you can try and fight it. But even with sobriety, the disease is always present. It is a chioce to remain sober, but like they say: once an addict, always an addict. And addiction is the disease. Chemical dependancy is not like a cold virus, or something else you can just get rid of. It is more like a cancer that you constantly have to monitor and keep in check. People who have cancer are never "cured." They are in remission. Same with addicts. But it is always a choice to continue on the path of sobriety, as difficult as that may be for so many.


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And also just a note, every person's situatiion is different. There are different levels of abuse and addiction. There are those who are both physically and mentally addicted (the hardest to treat), and there are those who have not yet progressed into physical dependancy, but rely on it mentally. Its a very complicated issue with many facets. No one person's story is exactly the same.


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Thanks to everyone for your response. I want to comment on some of your posts and, I won’t quote each person individually so this thread doesn’t get too crowded.

If a person’s curiosity, youth, and crowd is the reason for him/her to want to explore different drugs (this is usually the case unless someone is forced to use an illegal drug) and becomes addicted. Compared to someone who is given legal prescription to a drug and becomes addicted, one is doing willingly, and other un-willingly, at which point does that person become “weak”. Is he/she weak for wanting to explore drugs or needing prescribed medicine?

I’m not the type to get addicted to things easily either. I have experimented with different drugs at a younger age, and I know some people who are addicted to drugs. Thru my drug experimental phase of life, most drugs I used I was never “addicted” to, we did it mostly because we were bored, didn’t work, drove around all day doing something which would usually get us into trouble. At one point I realized there are some drugs which if used, even once, your body builds a dependency for it. The need to re-use this drug can catch a young person off-guard really fast, and if you don’t do something about even faster than you’re bound to become another statistic.

“Once an addict always an addict” is like saying once a person who has never used drugs, can become a druggy if the opportunity presents itself.
People use drugs for different reasons, if that person doesn’t address the issues to why he/she used drugs in the first place then it makes sense that a person will return to drugs eventually.
Every person’s situation is different; I think you’re right about the level of abuse and addiction has a lot to do with how long a person can stay sober, if at all.


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its a choice that leads into a horrible disease. (:


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Dr. P wrote:
Everyone has a choice in certain situations, and that includes drugs. You have the choice to stay away from it, but some people are weak and they do not have self control. Drugs do not necessarily mean illegal drugs, but legit ones such as Anti-depressants, sleep meds, etc. If a doctor prescribes something to you, you should carefully consider it. Not all medicine is "safe".


The more I think about it, I agree. It is a sign of weakness. Anytime someone needs to use drugs, any kind, its because theyre weak in some way shape or form.


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And the irony is that they are using drugs and alcohol to fill in that weakness, using it as their "strength," when in reality it is only digging them further into their weakness.


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lalabean wrote:
And the irony is that they are using drugs and alcohol to fill in that weakness, using it as their "strength," when in reality it is only digging them further into their weakness.


True.


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everyone's got a high.


lalabean

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PeicyP wrote:
everyone's got a high.


You are right. Its just that some people's highs are more destructive than others.


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Getting high is a choice, I don't believe the addicted bullshit excuse

But on the other hand, the people that do it choose to do it so dont talk shit about them. They choose to do it.


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Potheads.......this one's for you 8) :



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lalabean wrote:
And the irony is that they are using drugs and alcohol to fill in that weakness, using it as their "strength," when in reality it is only digging them further into their weakness.


You are addicted to The Kardashians and want to be famous... so don't be a hypocrite ;)


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God DAMMIT Dr. P. I don't want to be famous. I want to be adopted. BIG difference.
And yes, I am addicted. Everyone has their high, remember? :D
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