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legerdemain
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Muslims are invading Europe and breeding like rabbits, look what they are doing in Denmark. Armenians know better, when we fought the azeri scum and took back our homeland Artsakh the whole world was against us, now they get what they deserve, instead of protecting their borders Danish troops are in Kosovo killing our Serb brothers. Death to Islam.
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hkd
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yes, and I wondered always why the christian western countries back always the
moslems against their christian brothers. U.k. creating azerbaijan from nothing just
to embarass the russians in their southern border, germany backing the turks
during the genocide, the usa still denying the genocide to please to the turks, and
a countless of examples like that until going back to the middle age.
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thistooshallpass
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| legerdemain wrote: |
| Muslims are invading Europe and breeding like rabbits, look what they are doing in Denmark. Armenians know better, when we fought the azeri scum and took back our homeland Artsakh the whole world was against us, now they get what they deserve, instead of protecting their borders Danish troops are in Kosovo killing our Serb brothers. Death to Islam. |
legerdemain,
I wonder if Islam died at this second, we wouldn't find something else to hate and wish to kill.
It is so easy to paint everything with the broadest brush. This is similar to why humans enjoy watching a violent movie when someone blows off someone else's head and people in the theater clap and rejoice. I wonder if the movie went on to show the family of the dead person back at home in some country, his children, wife and their daily life, concern and sufferings... I wonder if people would still clap and rejoice. I suspect they would just leave the theater and call the movie boring. This is exactly the source of each of our sufferings and hate and displease and discontent and demand, blame, misery and war. We don't want to deal with the truth. We want to be destructed by anything as long as we don't have to look inside and find the cause of the wars in the world. First I should become peaceful with myself then instead of killing someone, I will have millions of ways to resolve a situation. What I am saying has nothing to do with whether you are a Christian, Muslim, from Kosovo or Armenia. It has to do with the most important thing that should concern you and that is your world. The world you are living daily and go to bed to sleep it off. Is that world peaceful, and if it is not then why? And please whatever you do don't go outside of yourself or blame anything whatsoever that is not inside you.
None of the legendary and true warriors in human history were filled with hate. Anger, hatred, and violence are only products of fear. We are afraid of what's inside of us. A warrior is always engaged in a life-and-death struggle for Peace, but not filled with hate or an urge to kill. Day after day train your heart out, refining your technique: Use the One to strike the Many! That is the discipline of the Warrior.
A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within. A warrior's mind and body must be permeated with enlightened wisdom and deep calm.
Now look inside and see if you've got what it takes to be a warrior and lead the people who read this message board to victory over whatever it is you want to be victorious with. I am sure if you do, the answer will be YES!
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legerdemain
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| BS, I'm not even gonna respond to this moojy sympathiser. Even if all the evidence of the world were in front of you, you'd reject it.
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Vandal
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| Posted: 02/19/08 |
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| legerdemain wrote: |
| Muslims are invading Europe and breeding like rabbits, look what they are doing in Denmark. Armenians know better, when we fought the azeri scum and took back our homeland Artsakh the whole world was against us, now they get what they deserve, instead of protecting their borders Danish troops are in Kosovo killing our Serb brothers. Death to Islam. |
YES!!! If I had a time machine I'd use it to help the Visogoths rid the Iberian Peninsula of Moor scum!
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thistooshallpass
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| Posted: 02/19/08 |
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| legerdemain wrote: |
| BS, I'm not even gonna respond to this moojy sympathiser. Even if all the evidence of the world were in front of you, you'd reject it. |
Avoiding what you got yourself into in the first place will not bring you victory. It is not a way to fight for your convictions. If you are not sure why you fight (besides the hate) it is advisable not create war. I have nothing to prove here or anywhere else for that matter, but I am open to be educated. I am venturing to assume (which is never safe) that you can think for yourself and can hold your attention to something for a little longer than few seconds. Read this or don't read this, but be a good man and try not to blow it off by cursing, disrespecting or avoiding. I am sure I can learn a thing or two from you and would like to think that you can learn as well. I apologize in advance, if my assumptions are wrong.
So you are a warrior, are you? You want war. Will you be the one to fight for whatever it is you so strongly believe in? You, like many of our compadres want to put a pressure on Turkey to sit down and agree to our terms. Do you have any idea how you're going to do this or do you rely on your leaders to do it?
Now, my opinion on this, which should not really matter since it is mine. Look what US is doing to the Middle East. Are we ready to get dirty with Turkey or we are hoping our big brother Russia or someone else will clean us up if we get dirty? Or are we relying on International sympathy. Sympathy..., since when a warrior looks for sympathy? Since when a warrior gets into the thick of the battle hoping he’ll be saved? What happened to warrior's own Truth?
We whistle for the dog but a wolf might come to us. Let’s make sure we don’t need the dog to begin with. We should already have all we need. We should already have enough food, enough resource to live peacefully in Armenia. If we think we don’t and we need more, then we all know where we’re going with it… and we also know whose sons and daughters are going to fight it. We know them as well as we know the fellows from the previous conflic and the state they're in. We also know the state of our ferless leaders. Governments rely on young folks because they are able play on their emotions and confused brains and short attention span. By the time the boy turns to man, sometimes it's too late; he forgot how to think for himself. So the sooner we all learn how to think and rely on ourselves and not to swallow everything that we've been fed, the better.
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thistooshallpass
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Yes child.  Don't mind the beard. It's just something we're sometimes required to do here, on this side of the river.
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Qstr8TwoCA
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Are ready for this, are we ready for that. Can we do this, how about that. We shouldnt be doing this, because of that. ENOUGH!
We do because we need to do, and if some people arent willing to lead, then others will have none to follow. If you want to sit back, and believe in the system of life for however you find fit, then please by all means, go right ahead.
But remember, I am an Armenian, and I want the same progress which every other countryman wants for his own country. I want to be the Armenian who can be proud of his country as an American is proud of his. I want to be the Armenian who can see the progress in his country as much as the Turk can see in his. Why shouldnt I, what is my country lesser in compared to the others.
We speak about politics and Armenia on this site with hopes of exposing ourselves, and others who come across these threads to idealogies which can lead to progress.
If the younger generation, my generation was in charge of Armenia, we would put it on the map in less than 10 years. As far as im concerned that is a FACT! its the older more corrupt armenians who act like the bastards that they are.
Part of this post comes from anger, another from hate built up from seeing that Armenians have been busting their buts for decades for the gains of other corporations, and other countries.
We should start doing it for ourselves, and regardless of which part of the river you live on, you should agree, IF you love Armenia.
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The Atheist
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| Posted: 02/21/08 |
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| All religions are cancer
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thistooshallpass
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| Qstr8TwoCA wrote: |
| We do because we need to do, and if some people arent willing to lead, then others will have none to follow. If you want to sit back, and believe in the system of life for however you find fit, then please by all means, go right ahead. |
In Dwight Eisenhower’s words, “You do not lead by hitting people over the head – that’s assault, not leadership.”
You are the leader. I follow you (wherever) and now we sit down together round a table in a harmonious chorus....now one man always wants to sing alone, for the absurd reason that he can sing better. Passion, enthusiasm and fire are good when they are controlled, but the controlling must be without any effort. That is what leader needs no matter what he/she is undertaking. The only time you can channel your patriotism is when it is not based on hate, period. This blinds. This dishonors you in your own eyes.
Believe it or not, I think I see where you’re coming from. After all it wasn’t long ago when I almost went to fight for Artsax and I mean I wanted to go so much that I would not listen to any reason. I even cried from pain and all that stuff. When many of the people on this board were not even born, I was one of the demonstrators back in 1987. So I am not stranger to what you are expressing. I would listen to Hovhanes Shiraz and get fired up and look for someone to argue with so I could bit the crap out of him, etc. I lived it personally. I suffered it personally, and finally I saw it as it was. I am totally at peace with what you are saying. Why?
Because I also see that I have advanced, when I have advanced, not because I have been sober, responsible, and cautious, but because I have been playful, rebellious, and immature.
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But remember, I am an Armenian, and I want the same progress which every other countryman wants for his own country. I want to be the Armenian who can be proud of his country as an American is proud of his. I want to be the Armenian who can see the progress in his country as much as the Turk can see in his. Why shouldnt I, what is my country lesser in compared to the others.
We speak about politics and Armenia on this site with hopes of exposing ourselves, and others who come across these threads to idealogies which can lead to progress. |
I certainly am not denying my heritage, etc. I am Armenian too, but first of all I am a human being. Simple as that. You have to be a human being first in order to be an Armenian or American (especially Armenian ) You want to be a proud Armenian; Usually one wants something which one doesn't have. You should already be a proud Armenian. See the progress in you, and you will be that same living progress. Your actions towards your fellow countryman will reflect that progress. It will transfer to everyone you interact with. This is how you see progress. If you continue comparing something with the other, there will never be any balance that will bring peace. You have yours, see it, be proud of it, enjoy it, live it. I like these discussion for the same reason as you stated. They teach us something, but mostly about ourselves. No ideology can lead to freedom. Maybe progress, but it is always in the eyes of the beholder. Communism was a progress for which millions of people died, both willingly and forcibly. Consider this please.
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If the younger generation, my generation was in charge of Armenia, we would put it on the map in less than 10 years. As far as im concerned that is a FACT! its the older more corrupt armenians who act like the bastards that they are.
Part of this post comes from anger, another from hate built up from seeing that Armenians have been busting their buts for decades for the gains of other corporations, and other countries.
We should start doing it for ourselves, and regardless of which part of the river you live on, you should agree, IF you love Armenia. |
My brother, I tip my hat to you for having all the honorable intentions, and the pain, but please watch it not to turn into hate. Frustration and being enraged by what you see can be good if it is channeled positively. This is a fact. If not, it will create more rage.
I have two beautiful kids who read to me in Armenian every night so they won't forget it and be able to enjoy what our ancestors created and to be able to create for the future generation. This is all I'll say as far as what it is that I do. I am sure everyone else is doing something.
Do you think I don't see the inequality and suffering of the people? Do you think I am indifferent to what is going on not only in Armenia but in the whole world? Of course I am aware of these things, but I know my function and am performing my function. Frustration is always born from inaction not from action. If you see something needs to be changed you should have the courage to change it, if there is something you cannot change, have serenity in acceptance... but you must be able to see the difference and distinguish one from the other. Just do the darn thing and it will never be wrong, unless you consider it wrong. And believe me no matter how much you cover it up, you will know the validity and justness of your own action. You are the doer. You are the seer, you are the perceiver and you are the master of what you say and what you do. Regards.
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Jesus
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| Posted: 02/21/08 |
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| The Atheist wrote: |
| All religions are cancer |
Hater
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.Mohammed.
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| Posted: 02/21/08 |
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| Jesus wrote: |
| The Atheist wrote: |
| All religions are cancer |
Hater |
fudge off!
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Moses.
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| Posted: 02/21/08 |
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| .Mohammed. wrote: |
| Jesus wrote: |
| The Atheist wrote: |
| All religions are cancer |
Hater |
fudge off! |
Assholez! Both of ya'z!
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| Posted: 02/21/08 |
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| I'm an atheist personally and I don't believe in ancient bullshittic fairy tales but muslim SOBs are the only ones trying to take over the world and we know how they treat people of other religions of atheists, enough said.
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legerdemain
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| Posted: 02/21/08 |
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| I'm an atheist personally and I don't believe in ancient bullshittic fairy tales but muslim SOBs are the only ones trying to take over the world and we know how they treat people of other religions of atheists, enough said. |
My quote.
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somebody visiting
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| Posted: 02/22/08 |
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| I'm an atheist personally and I don't believe in ancient bullshittic fairy tales but muslim SOBs are the only ones trying to take over the world and we know how they treat people of other religions of atheists, enough said. |
Jews are trying to take over. And they've done a good job so far, those scumbags.
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A Nice Guess
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| Posted: 02/28/08 |
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| Jews are trying to take over. And they've done a good job so far, those scumbags. |
I never see the jews yelling 'YHWH akbar' and kill themselves and many innocent people. Only muslims love to divert dirts to other group of people.
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Avoiding what you got yourself into in the first place will not bring you victory. It is not a way to fight for your convictions. If you are not sure why you fight (besides the hate) it is advisable not create war. I have nothing to prove here or anywhere else for that matter, but I am open to be educated. I am venturing to assume (which is never safe) that you can think for yourself and can hold your attention to something for a little longer than few seconds. Read this or don't read this, but be a good man and try not to blow it off by cursing, disrespecting or avoiding. I am sure I can learn a thing or two from you and would like to think that you can learn as well. I apologize in advance, if my assumptions are wrong.
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We are fighting for a better world. A world where the next generation will be able to smile, will be free from deadly brainwashing to hate one another.
I don't think you ever really want to understand things. In your try to be spiritualistic, you blind yourself on the fact that Islamic teaching is ONE of the most dangerous teaching in the planet nowadays. I don't hate muslims, I consider them victims of brainwashing. But I want to open the eyes of the people of the danger of muslims, even if what I do is against all odds. The media, the politically correct people, the muslims themselves, they all try to suffocate this kind of voice. I don't say about 'destroying muslims' or 'killing them', but rather 'educating them about Islam, urging them to read Quran and hadiths' in the light of humanity, and hope for them to understand how far the teaching from humanity. And draw them back to humanity.
The warriors nowadays don't need to come with swords. They come with convictions, with pens, with writings, with ideas, with their hearts. They still will face dangers, they might get killed for their ideas - many have died for critisizing Islam. many have died for apostasies, much more than what the media is willing to reveal to us.
Many of us can sit back and look from an eagle's view. Sit back and think that the 'warriors' are full of hates. No. We love the world so much, we love to see the next generation with smiles, without terrors and fears, who will learn the real meaning of life and being alive. Many of us will struggle without even having any 'warrior trophy', nameless soldiers whose grave would be found in abandoned fields without proper burials, far away from home. We might lose the war - but I myself will be proud even if we lose in the end.
One more thing, I never support any kind of violence. You can touch even the turks with hearts, with rational thinking, with everything that you have. Paul was once a Jesus' hater, and nobody would have guessed in the end he would become Jesus' lover.
Is it worth it? To me it is.
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Don-Sevak
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| Posted: 02/29/08 |
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| legerdemain wrote: |
| Muslims are invading Europe and breeding like rabbits, look what they are doing in Denmark. Armenians know better, when we fought the azeri scum and took back our homeland Artsakh the whole world was against us, now they get what they deserve, instead of protecting their borders Danish troops are in Kosovo killing our Serb brothers. Death to Islam. |
Muslims are ruining Europe, that's a freaking fact, having 8 children ,unemployed, without muslims Europe with be a superstate
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