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thug by nature

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PostPosted: 12/07/07   Reply with quote

I choose to Follow God

Go ahead and laugh



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PostPosted: 12/07/07   Reply with quote

thug by nature wrote:
I choose to Follow God

Go ahead and laugh


Already did LOL


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V8 regnat wrote:
Rosetta wrote:
Do you (as an Armenian) see Jesus as a messenger of God or a part of God? Do you believe Jesus created the heavens and the earth? I am just curious. Thanks!



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PostPosted: 02/02/08   Reply with quote

Well I believe that most of us do think of jesus as one of the greatest to prevail on this earth.
Him being a prophet or a piece/Son of God doesn't matter cause we believe in his goal his mission & hopefully try to carry it own on the best of terms.
Though I follow Islam , which says Follow your heart even if they gave u a FATWA, I still write "I believe " in Forms in the religoin Space ... CAUSE DON'T WE ALL BELIEVE ...Being HUMANS is a reason to unite & all devine religoins guide us into doing it in the most perfect way .
FATWA: A religous Law


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Michael wrote:
You can have any thought process you want and follow any world religion you want since you have the God given free will but you will be judged by a perfect God.


I can't help but ask, if God gave mankind free will then why would God turn around and judge mankind for utilizing his given free will? Also is any of your writings your own and by your own free will or by what you heard and read and were told to say and think? If I keep telling you how sweet and tasty honey is, it is no use until you eat the honey. Have you? If you have, and I don't want to doubt that you have, then you would know it is not possible to pass it down to someone else by just saying how sweet and tasty it is. I would not say ''I have found the truth,'' but rather, ''I have found a truth."


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thistooshallpass wrote:
Michael wrote:
You can have any thought process you want and follow any world religion you want since you have the God given free will but you will be judged by a perfect God.


I can't help but ask, if God gave mankind free will then why would God turn around and judge mankind for utilizing his given free will? Also is any of your writings your own and by your own free will or by what you heard and read and were told to say and think? If I keep telling you how sweet and tasty honey is, it is no use until you eat the honey. Have you? If you have, and I don't want to doubt that you have, then you would know it is not possible to pass it down to someone else by just saying how sweet and tasty it is. I would not say ''I have found the truth,'' but rather, ''I have found a truth."



I agree my son!


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PostPosted: 02/05/08   Reply with quote

it's not a matter of having faith or not, but the story of Jesus, I mean his
physical daily occupations as narrated is a little bit ridiculous, and there
are huge contradictions between the four bibles concerning the same events.
However the philosphical concepts and ideas are very deep and humanitarian
as expressed in the new testament.


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hkd wrote:
it's not a matter of having faith or not, but the story of Jesus, I mean his
physical daily occupations as narrated is a little bit ridiculous, and there
are huge contradictions between the four bibles concerning the same events.
However the philosphical concepts and ideas are very deep and humanitarian
as expressed in the new testament.


True. Unfortunately religion is a business, this is why there are so many sects that branch off Christianity.


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Dr. P wrote:
hkd wrote:
it's not a matter of having faith or not, but the story of Jesus, I mean his physical daily occupations as narrated is a little bit ridiculous, and there are huge contradictions between the four bibles concerning the same events. However the philosphical concepts and ideas are very deep and humanitarian as expressed in the new testament.
True. Unfortunately religion is a business, this is why there are so many sects that branch off Christianity.
Give me a religion that offers me TANGIBLE stock options, dental, match my blessings 1:1. I want to share in the profits of the trinkets sold dammit. Then i'll consider it. :)


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V8 on a 486 wrote:
Dr. P wrote:
hkd wrote:
it's not a matter of having faith or not, but the story of Jesus, I mean his physical daily occupations as narrated is a little bit ridiculous, and there are huge contradictions between the four bibles concerning the same events. However the philosphical concepts and ideas are very deep and humanitarian as expressed in the new testament.
True. Unfortunately religion is a business, this is why there are so many sects that branch off Christianity.
Give me a religion that offers me TANGIBLE stock options, dental, match my blessings 1:1. I want to share in the profits of the trinkets sold dammit. Then i'll consider it. :)


Invest in Halliburton LOL


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PostPosted: 02/06/08   Reply with quote

I have come to realize that by ridiculing someone's religion, faith, beliefs does not serve any purpose. If the entire argument is that Religions, as we know them, should not force their beliefs onto someone else, then anyone who mocks them is doing the same thing in reverse. Truth does not need any defense or protection from us or from anything for that matter. It is us. It is anything and everything. Whatever allows me to be strong, unafraid, peaceful, clear, kind, loving and not judging (both myself and others) is good enough for me. It does not matter what name it has. I would think that the religion as a concept came about because we wanted anything else but what IS, but this is a whole different discussion. It is easy to love those who agree with us. Trying to love those who don't agree with us... here is where you'll see how much conviction, or faith or religious umpf you got. I don't know if you have noticed, but anytime there is a discussion about Religion, it ends up in an argument and war. This alone should be enough to make people look deeper as to what is going on. In general religion should be less about theory and belief and more about love, peace and tolerance.


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PostPosted: 02/08/08   Reply with quote

thistooshallpass wrote:
I have come to realize that by ridiculing someone's religion, faith, beliefs does not serve any purpose. If the entire argument is that Religions, as we know them, should not force their beliefs onto someone else, then anyone who mocks them is doing the same thing in reverse. Truth does not need any defense or protection from us or from anything for that matter. It is us. It is anything and everything. Whatever allows me to be strong, unafraid, peaceful, clear, kind, loving and not judging (both myself and others) is good enough for me. It does not matter what name it has. I would think that the religion as a concept came about because we wanted anything else but what IS, but this is a whole different discussion. It is easy to love those who agree with us. Trying to love those who don't agree with us... here is where you'll see how much conviction, or faith or religious umpf you got. I don't know if you have noticed, but anytime there is a discussion about Religion, it ends up in an argument and war. This alone should be enough to make people look deeper as to what is going on. In general religion should be less about theory and belief and more about love, peace and tolerance.


I agree...Ive come to the point where, I can't extend beyond my knowledge, if I dont except that anything is possible...





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PostPosted: 02/11/08   Reply with quote

Ara, vas thees Jezuz guy brother of Moses? LOL

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PostPosted: 02/18/08   Reply with quote

Rosetta wrote:
Do you (as an Armenian) see Jesus as a messenger of God or a part of God? Do you believe Jesus created the heavens and the earth? I am just curious. Thanks!


Usually I don't recommend unless I am asked, but in this case your post seems to be asking for an opinion, therefore I would recommend a book by Eric Butterworth called: "Discover the Power Within You". However to be fair I'll include some quotes from the book and would strongly recommend that you or anyone else do their own investigation and don't take anyone's word or a book or whatever for Truth, including mine.

"The word "Christ" comes from "Christos", a Greek word meaning "anointed". It is the equivalent of the word Messiah, in Hebrew. So, to be the Christ, or Messiah, is to be "the anointed one of God", and we all have a Christ potential but simply don't believe it."

"Fundamentalists believe Jesus was God becoming man. I believe that Jesus was man becoming God."

"Jesus, according to Butterworth, was "perhaps ahead of his time" in that he taught of the endless potential of humanity and its spiritual unity with God while presenting "a workable philosophy, a way of life."

Butterworth cuts through the barriers of theologies, dogma, and ritual to show the relevance of Jesus' message to modern man - the simple but profound answers to the questions and problems that we all grapple with in order to live fuller, richer lives."

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0062501151/cornerstoneboo02


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PostPosted: 02/20/08   Reply with quote

Rosetta wrote:
Do you (as an Armenian) see Jesus as a messenger of God or a part of God? Do you believe Jesus created the heavens and the earth? I am just curious. Thanks!


What possible difference could this possibly make???? (and yes, I'm aware of the double "possible")
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